- 1 Session 97
- 2 [01:30] Interest in PM&R
- 3 [04:10] Traits that Lead to Turning into a Nice PM&R Physician
- 4 [06:45] Other Specialties She Thought-about
- 5 [11:52] The Roots of PM&R and Varieties of Sufferers
- 6 [14:50] Taking Calls
- 7 [16:15] Choosing Academic Setting over Group Setting
- 8 [18:42] Work/Life Stability
- 9 [21:30] Doing Procedures
- 10 [23:15] The Training Path
- 11 [25:10] What Makes a Competitive Applicant
- 12 [27:00] Bias Towards DOs
- 13 [28:25] Subspecialty Opportunities
- 14 [30:15] Working with Main Care and Different Specialties
- 15 [33:35] What She Is aware of Now That She Wished She Knew Going into Medicine
- 16 [35:15] The Most and Least Appreciated Things About PM&R
- 17 [39:45] Major Modifications in the Future of PM&R
- 18 [41:11] Remaining Phrases of Knowledge
- 19 Hyperlinks:
- 20 Take heed to Other Episodes
Dr. Brandee Waite is a bodily drugs and rehabilitation (PM&R) specialist who practices in a tutorial setting for nearly 15 years now. She talks about her specialty, varieties of sufferers, and the issues she likes probably the most and least about her apply.
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[01:30] Interest in PM&R
Brandee truly didn’t even know PM&R existed until the summer time after her second yr in medical faculty. It was a relatively small specialty on the west coast.
She and her pals have been reading concerning the totally different specialties they might probably take. One in every of them advised her that PM&R truly fit her character. It truly talked about how the specialty includes sufferers and their features of their day-to-day life. With a background in health and dance, she found out it was an incredible fit for her.
‘I’m very enthusiastic about individuals with the ability to reside full lives and I feel like perform and exercise are a part of that.’Click on To Tweet
They principally described PM&R as an intersection of neurology, orthopedics, neurosurgery, and psychiatry. She thought she highly favored most of these issues.
[04:10] Traits that Lead to Turning into a Nice PM&R Physician
You need to like working with different individuals. The PM&R physician is the leader of the care staff who works very intently with the bodily therapists, occupational therapists, and nursing employees.
They work in an in-patient rehab setting to actually tackle all the rehabilitation wants for sufferers. These might embrace studying the best way to gown again or stroll once more.
‘Physical drugs and rehab is certainly a specialty of a group care strategy.’Click on To Tweet
Hence, you might have to be able to work on a group that may have further input with you because the information. Some PM&R docs do procedures, others don’t.
Brandee additional subspecialized into musculoskeletal as a PM&R physician. Since she’s very much into dance, health, and sports activities, she favored the facet of taking good care of athletes. Plus, she likes to do a whole lot of procedures so she found it as a very good fit for her.
[06:45] Other Specialties She Thought-about
Brandee initially needed the OB/GYN route. However what actually bought her into PM&R was when she did a rotation in PM&R.
The physician she rotated with was an outpatient musculoskeletal specialist, who was double-boarded in Rheumatology and PM&R. He was prescribing pool remedy for individuals with back pain and decrease extremity issues. And she or he had by no means seen some other doctor who did corresponding to a approach to cope with these issues.
As a dancer and health teacher, Brandee used to show water aerobics throughout summer time. She knew it just made so much sense.
Brandee doesn’t like main care and so she knew she was going to do a specialty and OB/GYN was the one she ended up liking probably the most. Extra so, she simply didn’t love her rotations in inner drugs.
She went into PM&R not even figuring out that she needed to do a sports drugs fellowship. It was principally just the general perform for common musculoskeletal care and the rehabilitative elements for individuals with neurologic and orthopedic accidents.
And as she went extra into it, she discovered that the subspecialty was even more thrilling to her than the remaining. Hence, she ended up doing it.
[11:52] The Roots of PM&R and Varieties of Sufferers
PM&R truly happened means again after World Warfare II. A lot of people got here back with disabilities and primary care physicians didn’t know easy methods to look after an amputee or one with a spinal twine damage.
‘Past simply the speedy care of stabilizing them, but how do they reside their lives and transfer forward with being a contributing member of society? That’s where PM&R had its roots.’Click To Tweet
Presently, Brandee sees a lot of people with knee arthritis and knee issues. She sees a variety of individuals from skilled athletes to a lady with cerebral palsy who has lived an ambulatory life.
They principally see any drawback that affects a joint that’s not a part of the cranium or the backbone. Though there are PM&R docs that do backbone remedy. They’ve separate sports and backbone clinics at their workplace, and she or he solely works on the sports aspect.
Typically, she sees sufferers the place they should do “investigative” drugs. They take histories and pay attention for nuances. They do a robust bodily examination combining parts of neurologic examination, orthopedic examination, and common examination.
Different occasions, some patients come to her already with a analysis from their main care docs. This might then be a special dialog.
[14:50] Taking Calls
In their group, they’ve loads of subspecialists. They’ve some common PM&R docs in addition to some neuromuscular specialists and pediatric rehab specialists. They’ve a 20-bed inpatient acute rehabilitation hospital.
That being stated, she takes calls about six occasions a yr over the weekends. She is on call from house from 5pm-8am through the course of the week that she’s on name.
On Saturdays and Sundays, they go in and make rounds to see all the patients whereas the opposite docs have their weekends off.
‘All the docs in our group share in that call so it gets the whole yr of weekends coated.’Click To Tweet
[16:15] Choosing Academic Setting over Group Setting
Brandee chose the tutorial setting over the group route not for the money obviously. After ten years, all her students have been paid. She owns a house, takes care of her family, and travels lots.
‘What I like is the thought of continuous to be engaged in schooling and staying up on the newest things.’Click on To Tweet
She noticed that locally, there was not a lot concentrate on maintaining with what’s the newest thing that has come out just lately. It was more of a wrestle for them to get out and go to conferences and collaborate with different individuals in their area.
Moreover, she likes educating. She feels that her presence in the residency program may mean extra as a lady and an underrepresented minority in the subject. Plus, she will get extra day without work to travel to attend conferences.
‘My presence at an establishment on that degree may assist expose some individuals to our area which may not otherwise take a look at it in the event you don’t see someone that looks such as you within the area.’Click To Tweet
[18:42] Work/Life Stability
You figure out the way to do the stability. She doesn’t take that many calls. Nevertheless, in sports activities drugs, she finally ends up spending more time masking games. This takes further time to her common name schedule.
She is married and has two youngsters. She’s fortunate to have help from her household. Finally, you just should be efficient together with your time and what’s required of your documentation. Ultimately, it is possible for you to to figure this all out.
‘In any subject of drugs, there’s that curve of determining find out how to go from being the scholar or the trainee to being the one where you’ve acquired to maintain every thing.’Click on To Tweet
Brandee sees 15-22 sufferers a day. Her final patient is often scheduled at Four:15-4:30 so she not often stays in the office past 6 pm.
In addition, she’s additionally a fellowship director, the director of their clinic, and the chief for sports activities drugs. Hence, she has other administrative and management duties that she has to maintain.
Due to this, she doesn’t necessarily need to see patients 5 days every week all day on a regular basis on account of her different obligations. So she might have half a day within the clinic and doubtless take a half day or full day for administrative time.
[21:30] Doing Procedures
Brandee does numerous ultrasound-guided procedures. Some docs use X-ray steerage while she does ultrasound.
‘In bodily drugs and rehab nationally, there’s also increasingly more of interest in regenerative drugs.’Click To Tweet
PM&R has this interest in regenerative drugs which includes cells and biologic supplies to deal with illnesses like stem cell injections or platelet-rich plasma injections. They don’t do stem cell injection at their workplace however they do some plasma injections.
Loads of PM&R docs do an interventional backbone or a ache fellowship. They will then do epidural steroid injections for again pain or injections into the side joints or the zygapophysial joints for again or neck pain.
Some docs do EMG and nerve conduction research, which includes an electrical research of the extremities or face to measure totally different nerve features.
[23:15] The Training Path
The PM&R residency takes four years. Some residencies have all four years at the similar spot. Whereas some have internships elsewhere and you just do three years of PM&R on the website.
You can do a one-year transitional internship or only a preliminary drugs yr. Then you can do your three-year PM&R residency. Brandee took this route earlier than doing a 1-year sports drugs fellowship after finishing residency.
Brandee thinks PM&R is getting increasingly more aggressive. They’ve observed that they’re getting increasingly more purposes annually. The board scores are getting larger and higher.
It’s not as aggressive as Dermatology or Neurology. However out of the medical subspecialties individuals can go into, PM&R is turning into more competitive. Though location performs a task too. East coast and west coast spots are typically more selective or extra competitive than these in the midst of the country.
‘So long as you’re very satisfactory in what you do, you don’t need to be on the prime of the class with a purpose to secure a residency spot.’Click on To Tweet
[25:10] What Makes a Competitive Applicant
At Brandee’s institution, they have a small residency program with solely three residents per yr. For their program, they need to be sure that individuals are very self-motivated and really collegial.
Having superior clerkships in neurology, orthopedics, drugs, rehab, psychiatry, and people different subspecialties related to PM&R could be very helpful.
For individuals going into sports activities drugs, they take a look at whether they’ve carried out some volunteer work at local excessive faculties or schools. They take a look at any shadowing expertise with a sports activities drugs doctor.
Have good letters of recommendation and present that you simply’re a hard worker. Get those letters from fields which might be near PM&R.
If your institution doesn’t have PM&R, you must exit and look for locations that do rotations. This was what Brandee did and she or he knew she had to do nicely at those places with a purpose to get letters of recommendation.
[27:00] Bias Towards DOs
Brandee says there are a whole lot of DOs in PM&R so she’s not seeing any bias at all. That stated, sure residencies might have a screening and choice process coming from totally different DO faculties.
‘PM&R is an excellent match because they study lots about guide drugs and a variety of PM&R is about individuals’s musculoskeletal dysfunctions.’Click To Tweet
[28:25] Subspecialty Opportunities
Some individuals do a traumatic brain damage fellowship. Concussion is a extremely popular matter in drugs right now.
Others go into 2-year pediatric rehabilitation. They might subspecialize in debilitating illnesses that have an effect on muscular dystrophy in youngsters or cerebral palsy.
It’s also possible to do pain administration fellowship or neuromuscular disease fellowship (provided at UC Davis).
[30:15] Working with Main Care and Different Specialties
‘Many individuals assume that PM&R is synonymous with pain administration– and it’s not.’Click on To Tweet
What Brandee wishes main care docs to find out about PM&R is which you could’t essentially send a affected person to a common PM&R doctor and anticipate him to do sure procedures. Perceive that even inside a apply, there’s some breadth of experience.
Also, physiatrists could be a very integral a part of a sports drugs apply. Typically individuals think of orthopedics or inner drugs doing sports activities drugs. However PM&R is actually an extremely good fit for sports activities drugs varieties of situation.
A number of what they do is recommending how individuals could be more bodily lively, not only for the sake of sports. So use the PM&R docs as a helper to help deal with other continual illnesses through the use of exercise and bodily activity.
Other specialties they work intently with embrace orthopedic surgery, neurology, and rheumatology.
[33:35] What She Is aware of Now That She Wished She Knew Going into Medicine
Brandee wished she had recognized extra concerning the billing and argument issues. She’s additionally massive on self-confidence however she sees lots of people battling this. So she needs they knew they’re sensible sufficient to make a superb contribution.
‘Be assured and make a contribution. Be humble enough to study from the people who are setting the scene for you.’Click on To Tweet
[35:15] The Most and Least Appreciated Things About PM&R
Apart from doing injections, what Brandee really likes about her specialty is educating sufferers about their disease in order that they’re not reliant on their physicians for every thing. She likes with the ability to help individuals make milestones and absolutely take part in them.
What she likes the least is arguing with insurance coverage corporations that don’t need to pay for MRI or procedure that she actually thinks would help her sufferers.
[39:45] Major Modifications in the Future of PM&R
She doesn’t see any main modifications coming although she’s seeing how PM&R is now being increasingly more accepted.
After you’re taking your common board exams for inner drugs or household drugs, and in case you do a fellowship, you’ll be able to sit for the nonoperative sports drugs boards. It was solely 11 years ago that PM&R docs have been allowed to start out sitting for that exam. There weren’t a whole lot of fellowships that allowed PM&R docs to hitch them.
There are only 20 or much less accredited PM&R sports activities drugs fellowships within the nation and Brandee would like to see extra of that.
That being stated, it can be very competitive to get right into a fellowship just because there aren’t as many spots for PM&R docs as there are for inner drugs or family drugs docs.
‘A whole lot of those fellowships at the moment are opening their doorways to PM&R docs which haven’t been before.’Click on To Tweet
[41:11] Remaining Phrases of Knowledge
If she had to do it another time, Brandee would nonetheless have chosen the identical specialty.
Finally, her last piece of advice to these serious about sports activities drugs by way of the PM&R path is that you need to do your main residency first.
When you’re so targeted on what your subspecialty can be, typically you miss a few of the studying alternatives which you could get along the best way that may help you find yourself being a greater doctor general.
Especially with sports activities drugs, for those who’re so targeted on getting your fellowship that you simply don’t do a great job within the other issues you need to study with a view to get there, that may shoot you in the foot every time.
‘You’ve acquired to actually understand the fundamentals of the place you’re coming from – your essential specialty.’Click To Tweet
For people who really like musculoskeletal and body features, Brandee thinks the pathway via PM&R is extra fascinating than going by way of household drugs or inner drugs. But in case you love main care, then the latter is certainly the best way to go.